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Destiny
Hamster
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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Location: Belgium
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| hah, nothing beats New Balance and Adidas... |
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Sick****24
Tadpole
Joined: 17 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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As far as the different punk looks and evolution of it goes. I'd stereotypically not strictly or anything say. Again this is not to say or prove anything just general looks. ALOT of people didnt look like this at those times or anything.
In around 1976-77-78. Early punk rock look. The stereotypical look was short spikey hair, or short combed or crimped/lightly spike out . A very bastardized mod-ted look. A few pins and buttons on the sleeves, tight pants, casual shoes. Sometime leathers. Ripped clothing here and there, a few safety pins put anywhere on the body.and sometimes make-up depending on the look and style.
end of 79-to 84 and now even. The skunk/street punk look. More of a militia, patriotic style to it some say mild skinhead influnce. Plaid, mini-skirts, straightleg pants, bondage pants. More artwork on jackets and studs, and spikes. 14-hole boots, chucks, over-coats, bullet belts. either short hair, ratted, spiked or hawked. More self done stuff. Not as over-done and drastic, as many street punks today.
U.S hardcore look. button down shirts, flannel shirts well fit pants, , short-even hair, crew-cut, shaved, messy cut hair, hand- Gloves. combat boots, trainers, sweat/jogging-pants, bandanas, everyday cloths etc...
Crust look/anarcho/peace punk look. Street punk look but less fashionable, more hippy dreads beads, all black tight cloths, jean jackets.
im not going to go through the HXC,emo, grunge=crap, etc.. stuff
i think someone made a post on goth too so..
Whatever its, not for sure or very accurate as hell, and it doesnt matter but you made the post, and i felt like answering.
I made my opinion overtime by watching, reading, documents on punk etc.. and asking around knowing some older ones. But i never viewed/lived those times.. so.. |
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One_Way_System86
Goldfish
Joined: 19 Jul 2005
Posts: 63
Location: One Nation Under Their God
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| In my opinion, a punk or any pop-culture hating individual can no longer wear Chuck T's. They used to be the preferred shoe of the rebellious type, but now they are everywhere. Go to any mall (bah!) and look around, all you see are a bunch of teeny-boppers walking around in them screaming "Like, OMIGOD!, No WAY!!!." Emo losers ghetto thug wannabees and pop-punk posers wear em as well. Nike made a great profit move by buying converse and pumping the suburbs and shopping mall brats full of them. I have 2 pairs of them which I have not worn for well over a year now. Thanks nike for destroying an icon of rebellion and telling everyone that they need them to survive because you have no original product ideas of your own so you have to steal sub culture identities to shell out to rich white kids. :mad: |
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TestTubeTeen
Puppy
Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 212
Location: France
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Erfff... Paris Hilton even wears a Ramones shirt although she did'nt even know it's a band.... these shirts are sold in hype-fashion-stores. Also seen the Avril Lavigne guitarist with Bad Brains shirt. |
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tangerine-crunge
Goldfish
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 60
Location: Hespeler, Ontario
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Converse/Chuck Taylors or whatever can be Punk; but you're right, everyone wears them now...and I mean everyone...
I like Redstars...they're my favourite :P But although cool shoes are...cool, a lot of gangsters/plastics/sluts or whatever wear "punk" or skate shoes nowadays anyways....its trendy in their culture, so skate isnt just punk anymore. For now, anyways....until they all go back to wearing their Nikes and G-Unit shoes. |
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tangerine-crunge
Goldfish
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 60
Location: Hespeler, Ontario
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| TestTubeTeen wrote: | | Erfff... Paris Hilton even wears a Ramones shirt although she did'nt even know it's a band.... these shirts are sold in hype-fashion-stores. Also seen the Avril Lavigne guitarist with Bad Brains shirt. |
Wow...yeah i guess it's not that suprising that Paris Hilton didnt know the Ramones was a band...but thats hilarious!! |
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AmandaGee
Moderator
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 3579
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| I havn't bought Converse shoes since they were bought by Nike |
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lawn_gnomes_r_evil502
Lion
Joined: 30 Apr 2004
Posts: 931
Location: Indiana
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| i own a pair of doc martins and some goodwill "boots" that zip all the way up |
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TestTubeTeen
Puppy
Joined: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 212
Location: France
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| Same as amanda. I bought fake ones, as the Ramones first did on the first LP. 5 $. |
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Slaze
Not So Newbie
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 9
Location: Ann Arbor-Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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OMG, you all are the worst damn punks i ever met. no shoes dont matter but they where a part of the sceen, but if anything combat boots are more punk than ony shoe out there. PUNK IS ABOUT BEING AN INDIVIDUAL SO IT SHOULDENT MATTER WHAT U WEAR. :mad:
and to all you yelling poser poser and all that crap, that if anything makes u a poser if the only way u can feel like your a "punk" is by determining on your own who and who isent a punk makes u ******* poser.
no im not a "punk" damn it im ME but i thought that made me punk enough if not more. ya right now im wearing black pants and a tie dye shirt and a hoodie that says ireland on it, do i look punk no but yesterday i had plaid pants with an Anti-Flag and Bad Religion patch on it a "Bush not my president
" shirt and a jacket with a shit load of patches all over it, and chucks, was that punk, as far as style goes, yes. but PUNK as a style has little or nothing to do with the culture.
so all you hot topic shoping prics should be happy to know its ownd by GAP YA HOT TOPIC IS THE GAP so **** your, "hey im the conter culture" cuz your not if you where u would proly walk around in nice cloths mabe a suit and tie something different. if ya realy need to feel like your the conter culture by your cloths online from real punk stors dp-77.com that should do it. but CLOTHS DONT MATTER .
ps. go watch, steal, buy, whatever go see the movie "SLC Punk", should explaine everything. |
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Enforcer
Alley Cat
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 182
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Slaze wrote: | | OMG, you all are the worst damn punks i ever met. no shoes dont matter but they where a part of the sceen, but if anything combat boots are more punk than ony shoe out there. PUNK IS ABOUT BEING AN INDIVIDUAL SO IT SHOULDENT MATTER WHAT U WEAR. :mad: |
*cough*sarcasm*cough**cough*
| Slaze wrote: | | and to all you yelling poser poser and all that crap, that if anything makes u a poser if the only way u can feel like your a "punk" is by determining on your own who and who isent a punk makes u ******* poser. |
That's ironic you say that, seeing as a little further back you said 'OMG, you all are the worst damn punks i ever met'. Really, who are you to be the judge of all things supposedly 'punk'?
Think about it. The more people will try to wrestle with themselves as to the definition of punk and preach to it, the more we'll lose touch with our integrity and connection to punk rock. I'm glad I managed to teach myself this, thank goodness.
| Slaze wrote: | no im not a "punk" damn it im ME but i thought that made me punk enough if not more. ya right now im wearing black pants and a tie dye shirt and a hoodie that says ireland on it, do i look punk no but yesterday i had plaid pants with an Anti-Flag and Bad Religion patch on it a "Bush not my president
" shirt and a jacket with a shit load of patches all over it, and chucks, was that punk, as far as style goes, yes. but PUNK as a style has little or nothing to do with the culture. |
Great open views. That's pretty much correct in my book.
| Slaze wrote: | so all you hot topic shoping prics should be happy to know its ownd by GAP YA HOT TOPIC IS THE GAP so **** your, "hey im the conter culture" cuz your not if you where u would proly walk around in nice cloths mabe a suit and tie something different. if ya realy need to feel like your the conter culture by your cloths online from real punk stors dp-77.com that should do it. but CLOTHS DONT MATTER .
ps. go watch, steal, buy, whatever go see the movie "SLC Punk", should explaine everything. |
Ah, the trend of anti-trend. It doesn't matter what clothes you wear at all. You're still buying them from a store, it doesn't matter whether it's Gap or not. Really, if anything is rebellious it had best be done to outlet parts of you that others try to bend, not just be done out of pure spite to others so that you end up wasting time, accomplishing nothing significant, getting in trouble and letting corporate empires shove a dick up your ass.
If you ask me, the idea of 'punk' in its artistic sense is pretty much dead. Really, do people in general actually CARE how long you spike your hair or how heavy your leather jacket is (hell, does anybody care what clothes you wear) anymore? Do people in general actually CARE how loud you can pump a 7 Seconds album through the speakers anymore? Do people in general actually CARE how snotty you can make your voice sound or how many anti-Bush stickers you have or anything?
Seriously... Clothing, hairstyles and tattoos that were once deemed as very daring in the face of things like purity now stalk their ways into commercials and are worn daily by the masses, yet people still buy into them thinking the other people in general give a shit when their own bloody tax dollars are going towards supporting the act with even so much as open room for objection. In place of scenarios in which 'devil music' like AC/DC frightened people and spread controversy and riots and protests throughout the world as to the 'satanic messages poisoning children's minds' back in the day we now have kids moshing around their rooms to the Woo Hoo song just to get suckered into popular radio, and yet people still buy into it thinking they're proving an utmost shocking point that loud and distorted guitars mean rebellion. There may be old-time puritans who may be as offended of some of it as many people were back in the 70's, but then again why stoop so low as to be as stuck back in time as they are?
This 'anti-trend' thing is like building a long and twisty line of dominoes and then thinking we'll somehow come to accomplish coming to a perfect conclusion that will knock our problem off the table: People build the long line of dominoes, then they will tip over one domino which will have to tip over another, which will tip over another, etc. We keep thinking the line of dominoes will eventually lead to knocking an obstacle off, but at the end of the day we find the line of dominoes went in loops and never knocked over the obstacle we thought we were on top of, and we are left with no other choice than to pick up the mess we've made. |
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Slaze
Not So Newbie
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
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Location: Ann Arbor-Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ well i cant dissagree with just about all of what u said, and ya your right about me not being able to judge people, its just i hate people being like your a poser, **** whatever man im all about freedom (my inner hippie is screeming) poser or not realy i guess i dont care cuz at heart we are all punk and "posers" in my oppinion is just someone discovering the culture if they find out they like it then they are one if not well its not for them.
Quote myself "Arnt we all punks at heart" |
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automaticLover
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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about foot wear: you got about 4 shoes: chucks, boots, creepers, and more 70 leather dress shoes
you got your chucks when your just hanging out or whatever, creepers when you gotta be taller and hotter(my favorite pair) and boots when you gotta knock a crusty fags teeth in!
if you say that its not what you wear that makes you punk, thats only half true, you seriously cant be dressed in ambercrombie saying your punk. if your a true punk you know what to wear and how to distinguish yourself. punks gotta love the ridiculously tight peg pants! all the people i know mostly wear their leather, with studs(some overly studded and they look like a disco ball) some band tshirt, that might be a bit tatterd but thats probly from sewing it tighter and the side splitting a bit, some cool as shit belt (mine is a zipperbelt) some cool as shit shoes, you got some acessories too, be it a handcuff earing, a cross upside down, your chain necklace or something clever( mines a zipper too, and i got a dodad of mary and jesus i wear for shits and giggles) and your crazy hair or w/e
but thats just me |
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Slaze
Not So Newbie
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
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Location: Ann Arbor-Michigan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| automaticLover wrote: | about foot wear: you got about 4 shoes: chucks, boots, creepers, and more 70 leather dress shoes
you got your chucks when your just hanging out or whatever, creepers when you gotta be taller and hotter(my favorite pair) and boots when you gotta knock a crusty fags teeth in!
if you say that its not what you wear that makes you punk, thats only half true, you seriously cant be dressed in ambercrombie saying your punk. if your a true punk you know what to wear and how to distinguish yourself. punks gotta love the ridiculously tight peg pants! all the people i know mostly wear their leather, with studs(some overly studded and they look like a disco ball) some band tshirt, that might be a bit tatterd but thats probly from sewing it tighter and the side splitting a bit, some cool as shit belt (mine is a zipperbelt) some cool as shit shoes, you got some acessories too, be it a handcuff earing, a cross upside down, your chain necklace or something clever( mines a zipper too, and i got a dodad of mary and jesus i wear for shits and giggles) and your crazy hair or w/e
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^^^ while as a style in its original pop form your about 96% right. although i think you totally missed the controversy above, what we were trying to say(or at least i was) is that punk has become so much more than than it first was. now going into college i realize that back when i first posted in this forum i was obsessed with finding the meaning of punk and now i realize it dosent matter or at least that it matters even less what punk is. it started in the streets the ORIGINAL punk style was literally whatever you could get your hands on, the working class , that was punk. even the word punk means poor hoodlums or trouble makers. what made the punk style was a french cloths designer that studied this sub culture and their DIY (do it yourself) style and made it a fashion .
i guess what im getting at is that punk rightfully has 3 main areas. the original on the streets style, the **** it mentality, and the pop culture.
so what are we really trying to define? because to a point we are all right, punk has grown far out of our reach with to many intricate sub cultures and genres of music. its like rock and roll . . . when was the last time you heard a newer band and just called it rock? its near impossible to do so?
i hope my rant has explained my views and possibly cleared up well anything.
-slaze |
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automaticLover
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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| ^ i agree w/ that! but the thing is punk was just as popular as trends are today (exp. emo shit) in a few years its probly gonna be like emos not dead, and the few people who still listen to it (totally not sayin emos good or w/e) but look at the scene at first, there were tons of posers trying to fit in, now if you live punk you gotta truly mean it, cuz there so many more styles and choices of music out there then there was back then, basicly back in like 77, it was what ever you felt most comfortable in and some people coundnt afford much(hence ripped clothes) and to be obscene, punk back then kinda resembes goth nowadays, black lipstick and shit, bondage (maybe for girls) but now theres a line between punk and goth, and goth is just gay as ****, and so is emo, punk kids atleast give wieners like that a boot in the ribs |
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