F*CK THE GOTHS

Gowtt · Kitten Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 142

Hot Topic sucks balls, but I do know a real hard-core punk dude who works there. He needs the money!! Right?!? Oh well

It sucks balls. I point and laugh at the rpeps who walk out.

Vandalskick89 · Kitten Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Richmond

Ever read the Johhny The homcidal Maniac? Its ******* great. Its this guy, and all he does is kill stupid people. And he has a bunny that talks to him, and there is this wall. Man just read them. They are sadistic and Wry, but read them

Gowtt · Kitten Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 142

[quote="Vandalskick89"]Ever read the Johhny The homcidal Maniac? Its ******* great. Its this guy, and all he does is kill stupid people. And he has a bunny that talks to him, and there is this wall. Man just read them. They are sadistic and Wry, but read them[/quote]

Johnan Vasquez right? Yeah I read them, I also read squee. I don't like invader zim though. You don't have to go to HT to buy them though.

Son Of Sam · Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject:

Hot Topic is way over priced but you can find most of that stuff on the net for cheeper.

Also if you are in the Philly area there are a lot of cool places on South Street that has some great stuff.

SD obsessed · Lion Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 929 Location: UK

hahahahahaha hot topic hahahahahahaaaaaaa

Vandalskick89 · Kitten Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Richmond

Yea, um, for those people who were talking bout Goths in a historic perspective, there is something on the history channel about them. Not sure what night, but sometime this week and 9 (thats eastern standard time, so, uh, figure it out)

discardedchile · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:33 pm Post subject:

hahahhahahahha comix at hot topic hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha

never speak again!!!!!!!!!!
hhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Vandalskick89 · Kitten Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Richmond

HAHAHA SHUT THE **** UP HAHAHAHA

i don't listen to my girlfriend, what makes you think i'd listen to you. Dumbass. Go, um, cry.

SixStringSamurai · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject:

that was clever Vandalskick89... very... very... clever.

SD obsessed · Lion Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 929 Location: UK

damn you forgot the hahahahahahahahahaha!

Spyke · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject:

you know what's really ******* hilarious? you know how all those crazy wanna-be punk types think they're being so "cool" and being "non-conformists" when they shop at hot topic? conformity is in their ******* name! ******* HOT TOPIC!! hahahahahhahahahaha

the only problem I have with ht is that it's way overpriced.

and JTHM rules. though I got that at a comic book store. so I didn't even have to set foot in hot topic. hahahahahhaaaaA

discardedchile · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:

HAHA comic books at hot topic HAHAH "what will they think of next???"

SD obsessed · Lion Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 929 Location: UK

oh they'll think of something, probably good charlotte pencilcases and erasers and shit like that haha, i'd buy them, to see them burrrn on the skate ramps!

Milo Goes To College · Not So Newbie Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 5

OK I looked at this thread and seen that someone said that before Goth was a sub culture it was a religion ???? That is the biggest bunch of bullshit I EVERY HEARD. I guess I will have to give you guys a 101 on "What is Goth"

Also I heard that someone was going on and whinny because a lot of Goths don't cut there hair into wild styles like punks (which is so untrue) ? That is labeling punk as a look, and that is something a poseur would do. Let them be them, right on to them. What about the Ramones they did not spike up there hair into mohawks or color there hair. This is dumb lol Fighting about hair.

Anyway why exactly do we want another subculture to look like us, or dress like us? or style there hair like us? We don't, well atleast the people I know don't, to tell the truth punks would not even spread messages of hate against another follow sub culture, that is like hating on another race. It's a bunch of poseur bullshit

First off Goth is a post-punk musical movement. The first wave of Goth bands were punk in origin.

Goth is an alternative subculture; it is both a style of music and a fashion, like Punk. People who listen to the music don't necessarily dress in the style, and people who look like goths don't necessarily like the music either - a lot of metal fans have adopted the goth look, making for a great deal of confusion.

However, on the rare occasion that someone looks like a goth and likes goth music, chances are they're actually a goth.

Especially if they deny it.

The name originally came from a Germanic tribe (ie the Goths). The Romans regarded them as barbaric and uncultured, much like the Vandals. "Gothic" was later applied to a style of medieval architecture by critics who regarded it as similarly barbaric and uncultured (something similar happened with the term "Vandal"). The term was later applied to a late 18th/early 19th century style of literature which had a fascination with death and the supernatural.

The term "Gothic" was first applied to the music which is now considered "goth" in about 1979

Later on, the term "Goths" or "Gothic Punks" was applied to fans of the music, particularly those that had the gothic look.

The early goths looked similar to punks, except that the predominant colours were black for hair & clothing (with the occasional outburst of white, red or purple) and silver for jewellery. Thus they had ripped clothing, and even mohicans, though the "Goth Mohican" was usually black and much wider than the punk version (shaved at the sides only). They also tended to spout a lot of fishnet (more usually on the arms for men) and had a distinctive style of makeup, with very white faces and lots of black eyeliner (for both men and women). Hair was usually dyed black, crimped and backcombed.

At first the hair was usually fairly short for men, backcombed up, but by the mid-to-late eighties long black hair became fashionable and it's now more usual to see hair long & down than shaved at the sides & spiked up. Makeup remains an integral part of the look, but clothing has diversified so that some now wear clothes influenced by 18th or early 19th century styles whilst others wear PVC, leather & fishnet. (crushed velvet tends to be another goth favourite). And some of them wear both, though not usually at the same time. Black and white remain the predominant colours, with red or purple still making an appearance. Distinctive fabrics tend to be silk, crushed velvet, leather & PVC.

The first goth music grew out of punk, and some of the early bands were very lively, characterised by tribal drumming. Things changed in the mid-eighties, mainly due to the rise of the Sisters of Mercy, probably the most well-known goth band. The Sisters were characterised by deep vocals, simple yet prominent basslines, and simple drum machine rhythms. Unfortunately they came to typify the "Goth Sound" and too many later bands followed their example.

Later on, there was some crossover with the Industrial scene, and a lot of bands now use electronic sounds as well as the archetypal guitar/bass/drum machine/vocals.

In the late 90s, "cybergoth" became very popular, essentially a mix of goth-style vocals with a dancey backing. Whether this is a subgenre of goth, a subgenre of industrial, or a mixture of both is a vexed question, but overall the scene seems to lean more towards the industrial side of things.

There is also a fair bit of "ambient" goth, characterised by subtle instrumentation and haunting female vocals.

Lyrically, goth tends to be on the doomy side- dark lyrics and a doomy sound are fairly typical of most (but not all) goth these days.

SD obsessed · Lion Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 929 Location: UK

what are you, a fukking online reference??